Comments on: ‘Energy Beyond Oil’ by Paul Mobbs – Could YOU Cut YOUR Energy by 60%? http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/ If we do not do the impossible, we shall be faced with the unthinkable Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:36:09 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Trevor B http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-86 Trevor B Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:00:45 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-86 I thought the intro was very good. I have been looking at peak oil for some time now and while some hyp seems exaggerated and over simplified, assuming that we do nothing in-between now and the impending disaster the fact remains that ignoring the situation is not going to help. Even when we do come up with solutions just think of the difficulty of re jigging our whole world, which will by itself require huge amounts of energy. It seems we really do have conjunction elements that could contribute to the perfect storm not least of all because our whole economic system relies on inexpensive energy. With regard to the insults, it’s a common practice of those loosing an argument to try and change the subject. I recommend the following web site for those interested to visit: http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ Although one of the gloomier scenarios it does make a lot of salient points and has lots of useful links. I thought the intro was very good. I have been looking at peak oil for some time now and while some hyp seems exaggerated and over simplified, assuming that we do nothing in-between now and the impending disaster the fact remains that ignoring the situation is not going to help. Even when we do come up with solutions just think of the difficulty of re jigging our whole world, which will by itself require huge amounts of energy. It seems we really do have conjunction elements that could contribute to the perfect storm not least of all because our whole economic system relies on inexpensive energy. With regard to the insults, it’s a common practice of those loosing an argument to try and change the subject.

I recommend the following web site for those interested to visit:

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Although one of the gloomier scenarios it does make a lot of salient points and has lots of useful links.

]]> By: nick http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-59 nick Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:53:18 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-59 The Earth will eventually recover from whatever people do to it, the point is to love the people and other species that inhabit it now! Happy to be descibed as a materialist, not an earth worshipper, as a confident athiest, I don't worship anything, not even the "Manifesto for a sustainable Society" Great Blog Aled btw! The Earth will eventually recover from whatever people do to it, the point is to love the people and other species that inhabit it now!
Happy to be descibed as a materialist, not an earth worshipper, as a confident athiest, I don’t worship anything, not even the “Manifesto for a sustainable Society”

Great Blog Aled btw!

]]> By: Sue J http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-57 Sue J Tue, 24 Jun 2008 09:04:52 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-57 To Passer By: in contrast to your reply, I don't see anywhere in the article that you linked to where it says that earth worshippers are materialists ... in fact it doesn't mention earth worshippers at all, as they are not necessarily the same as environmentalists. To Passer By: in contrast to your reply, I don’t see anywhere in the article that you linked to where it says that earth worshippers are materialists … in fact it doesn’t mention earth worshippers at all, as they are not necessarily the same as environmentalists.

]]> By: Aled Dilwyn Fisher http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-55 Aled Dilwyn Fisher Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:05:53 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-55 Passer by, Criticism is great, and I encourage it. Anonymously posting on a blog, invoking Orwell and Popper to tell me that my university much be going down the pan, and sarcastically linking elsewhere does not amount to criticism. Passer by,

Criticism is great, and I encourage it.

Anonymously posting on a blog, invoking Orwell and Popper to tell me that my university much be going down the pan, and sarcastically linking elsewhere does not amount to criticism.

]]> By: passer by http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-53 passer by Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:01:56 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-53 Earth worship is very much MATERIALST, As pointed out in the link. a secular religion. Popper esp in his later years was very much in agreement with his life long friend Hyeck that economics was not a science. The purpose of any critism is to try and break down an argument to see if it still stands, or whats left, yours lies in tatters, sorry for the critism. Earth worship is very much MATERIALST, As pointed out in the link. a secular religion.

Popper esp in his later years was very much in agreement with his life long friend Hyeck that economics was not a science.

The purpose of any critism is to try and break down an argument to see if it still stands, or whats left, yours lies in tatters, sorry for the critism.

]]> By: Aled Dilwyn Fisher http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-52 Aled Dilwyn Fisher Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:25:22 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-52 I can only wonder what Popper, as a fan of social criticism, would have made of someone coming onto a blog and writing anonymous and unconstructive comments (strangely, the first time I have heard Greens described as "materialists" who treat economics as a science). I can only wonder what Popper, as a fan of social criticism, would have made of someone coming onto a blog and writing anonymous and unconstructive comments (strangely, the first time I have heard Greens described as “materialists” who treat economics as a science).

]]> By: passer by http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-51 passer by Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:02:55 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-51 "panglossians"?, Maybe its because we are not materialists and as such dont see economics as a science, which it is not. As popper pointed out all life is problem solving, get used to it. “panglossians”?,

Maybe its because we are not materialists and as such dont see economics as a science, which it is not.

As popper pointed out all life is problem solving, get used to it.

]]> By: Derek Wall http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-50 Derek Wall Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:11:28 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-50 looks like you have the panglossians on your case. Infinite economic growth on a finite planet, I am skeptical economist on this one...I still think climate change is a bigger threat than peak oil...interestingly my weekly copy of the Economist, the free market economists free market bible seems to be a catalogue of concern over climate change, despite the lack of concern from people like tim worstall looks like you have the panglossians on your case. Infinite economic growth on a finite planet, I am skeptical economist on this one…I still think climate change is a bigger threat than peak oil…interestingly my weekly copy of the Economist, the free market economists free market bible seems to be a catalogue of concern over climate change, despite the lack of concern from people like tim worstall

]]> By: passer by http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-49 passer by Sun, 22 Jun 2008 14:34:04 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-49 btw, who is this Mobbs guy, seems to me he is little more than a pretend academic. How about trying out the thoughts of one of the worlds greatest living physicists? Freeman Dyson has to say on the whole subject. http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21494 btw, who is this Mobbs guy, seems to me he is little more than a pretend academic.

How about trying out the thoughts of one of the worlds greatest living physicists? Freeman Dyson has to say on the whole subject.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/21494

]]> By: passer by http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/energy-beyond-oil-by-paul-mobbs-could-you-cut-your-energy-by-60/#comment-48 passer by Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:42:01 +0000 http://aleddilwynfisher.wordpress.com/?p=36#comment-48 what was it that Orwell said about some things being so stupid only an intellectual could believe them. Things sure are in decline at the LSE, Prof Popper will be turning in his grave. what was it that Orwell said about some things being so stupid only an intellectual could believe them.

Things sure are in decline at the LSE, Prof Popper will be turning in his grave.

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